attachment parenting is killing me

topic posted Tue, November 11, 2008 - 4:18 AM by  try again
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it's becoming really obvious to me that attachment parenting is something that is incredibly hard to do outside the context of a "village."

i guess i hadn't really thought about it -- that ap was taking up ideas not common in the west, isolated as parents often are.

i wore him and wore him. and at the end of the day i was wiped out and he woke up from his nice long sling slumber and was ready to party.

i slept in the same bed -- or should i say didn't. and i'm about ready to fall on my face at the end of another night of 2.3 hours of sleep.

i feed on demand and my nipples are about to fall off.

wtf?!

as a single mom i want to give him so so so much love. but as a single mom i also have too all the more begin to take my own health very seriously. and i'm crashing.

i have sent up requests for help -- and community is rallying. but i'm just wiped.
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  • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

    Tue, November 11, 2008 - 9:18 AM
    There are no hard and fast rules. You do what works for you and what works for him. Take the things that are working and modify or abandon the things that aren't.

    Someone used this analogy on me the other day and it is apt. On a plane, the flight attendants will advise you that in the event of an emergency, put your own oxygen mask on first, then your child's. The same is true of parenting. Take care of yourself. You won't be a good mother if you aren't getting what you need.

    Ask for help and accept offers of help (this was hardest for me personally). If someone wants to help, let them. Have them clean your bathroom, do your dishes, go shopping for you. Sit with your son for an hour while you take a long uninterrupted bath.

    You are doing a good job. Take care of yourself as well.
    • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

      Tue, November 11, 2008 - 9:25 AM
      What Carrie said.
      She and I both had our own issues with AP (we are Friends in Real life), and we both massaged the AP Theories to suit our own needs. Notice I said: "our OWN needs"? Happy Mommies make for Happy Babies! Now, we have three of the most Amazing Kidlets I have ever known! And the most Fashionable!
  • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

    Tue, November 11, 2008 - 9:30 AM
    Yes, there is no one way to be an attachment parenting parent. Some people find co-sleeping works and others prefer a crib. The same with baby wearing. It doesn't have to be an always, all the time sort of thing. Do what is comfortable for you and your child and don't guilt yourself for not being able to do some things. We all have to make own choices that work for us and help us have a positive experience with our children.
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      Thu, November 13, 2008 - 9:52 AM
      one of my friends thought she would always wear her baby. too bad hes a giant and shes a little skinny thing. the baby was in 2t before he was 12 months! and his head! so you have to do what works. and you are right. i think in the west we have an overglorification of how things are done in other places in the world. when in fact it is done out of nesasity.

      theres a chinese saying that you raise your children simply. which means you just raise them. women in china wear their babies because it is practical for them. you do whats practical for you.
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    Re: attachment parenting is killing me

    Thu, November 13, 2008 - 9:57 AM
    i dont get the feeding on demand. how do you go to work? surely your baby must be on a bottle schedule while you are away? i dont think you should be so strict u only feede bebe at cetain time. but dont feel bad about saving you nips. thjere are other ways u can comfort chaim.
    • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

      Thu, November 13, 2008 - 1:58 PM
      "i don't get the feeding on demand. how do you go to work? "

      you don't (work, that is). i fed Sequoia on demand until he was old enough to swipe the food off the plate himself. Heck, i guess i still feed him on demand as he pulls my shirt down whenever he wants to nurse. But i was home with him for close to 13 months before i had to go back to school. Other moms feed on demand when they're home and on a schedule when you're away. but yeah- it's difficult to do if you're not with baby all the time.
      • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

        Thu, November 13, 2008 - 3:08 PM
        "Heck, i guess i still feed him on demand as he pulls my shirt down whenever he wants to nurse. "

        i swear, someday we will torture them with our stories of shirt pulling and boobie demanding!
        • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

          Thu, November 13, 2008 - 4:02 PM
          <<i swear, someday we will torture them with our stories of shirt pulling and boobie demanding!>>

          One of my friend's mom had another baby when we were about 18 and she nursed her until she was 4. It was definitely the baby's choice. She was totally demanding about it and her mom let her self wean. Now she is a teenager and she gets all upset if anyone mentions that she still breastfed at that age. One time she was going off saying, "God mom, that is disgusting! How could you do that for so long?" We all cracked up because we all remembered how it really happened!
          • longterm nursing and the teens who come out of it...

            Thu, November 13, 2008 - 11:54 PM
            well, my very independent and bright 14 year old didn't give up nursing until she was settled into a kindergarten she liked. the last year was kind of hard for me, and I took a lot of flak from the guy I was with about it (he had strong opinions on almost everything I did; how do you say "emotionally abusive relationship?") but I felt she was so independent and easy in so many other ways that i;d se this through until she felt all right about not breastfeeding any more...
            anyway, she hasn't turned on me about how longterm nursing is "disgusting." in fact she will defned it in my friends who have younger chidlren if someone gets all critical, saying it "didn;t hurt her any."
            somehow I do find it entertaining that she wears little padded bras she really doesn't need (i've gone braless most of my life and while I didn;t have a whole lot in that department whenyounger, it;s fairly full and ripe now...) and shaves her legs and armpits, again unlike me generally speaking, without any conversation with me about it one way or another...
            • <<she hasn't turned on me about how longterm nursing is "disgusting." >>

              I don't think the girl I spoke of has turned on her mother either. She's just being a teenager. Maybe your daughter is more mature than most. Gosh I remember at that age being silly about my naked baby pictures but now I love them. That is how teens can be sometime. Knowing this family as I do I won't be surprised if by the time she has her child she decides to nurse her baby the same way she was nursed and then she'll laugh about how silly she acted about it when she was a teenager.
      • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

        Thu, November 13, 2008 - 3:09 PM
        as with everything else-- one size does NOT fit all.. and it is so with AP too.

        take what works when it does and don't fret over the rest.
        • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

          Thu, November 13, 2008 - 4:00 PM
          "as with everything else-- one size does NOT fit all.. and it is so with AP too."

          absolutely.

          please remembe that the woman who overvalorizzed the COntinuum COncepot, jean Liedloff, poudly admits that she is not a mothe by bithing or adoption and I hink she told one interviewer, "I;ve never changed a diaper" but peopl pay serious money to have consultation with her about how to be more lke the Amazonian mamas she hung with (she's not a trained anthropologist either)

          I poactice most of wha's called AP,,maybe more than a lot of mothers ...but I also say bware of the cult of the "expers" and of labls. someon on a parenting list I was on years ago refered tongue in chek to "the AP canon." i's not a religion, unless you want to make it one, and William Sears and jean Liedloff and whoever are not he hgh preiss unless you decide to amke hem tha.

          do wha works and yes, he people in hose ribal cultures, as far as IU know (I did earn an honors dege in socioculural anthropology some eyars back) have a COMMUNIY tha hlps raise he child. among some of hos people of he Amazon=rain fores, kindship ges confusing bcause people call their biological moher AND their moher's siser "mother" and their first cousins by the auntie mother "sister" or "brother." i's no one mother holding one baby in the sling every hour...grandma and older siser and aunie and favorite neighbor all are part of it too.

          see if ou can get o a single mothers and babies group, or even a mohers and babies group where everyone is welcome (a lot of women feel like single mothers even when they supposedly have a parner, believe me)...you might make friends and feel less burned ou and manage to collaborate for some suff.
          peace.

          judith



      • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

        Fri, November 14, 2008 - 12:34 PM
        This is how the feeding on demand and working situation worked (for me, at least):

        i went back to work when PK was 4 months old..and we found a home-based daycare provider who was able to be attentive enough (because she had only 2-3 other children at a time to take care of) to feed her on demand. She would simply read for hunger cues, and feed her as she needed. Unfortunately, I was never able to pump enough to meet her demand, so she was given formula in addition to breastmilk for a while. I also should add that the formula at daycare never really impacted my overall supply, because I am still able to bf her at 18 months.
        • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

          Tue, November 18, 2008 - 2:51 PM
          We are in the same exact boat, Simone. My daycare provider feeds baby G on demand and we have almost always had enough breast milk...which is handy since she has now decided she doesn't like formula. (She'll take it ONCE in AWHILE, but prefers boobie milk). She has now started eating solids, too, which helps fill her belly while I'm gone. Her new favorite food is ground dried figs with water added, mixed with oatmeal and apples. Yummy.

          Also I am still a pumping machine. I got nearly 9 ounces in 7 minutes the other day!! YIKES!
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            Wed, November 19, 2008 - 12:38 PM
            ((((( hugs )))))))
            after three kids i don't recommend ap any more, haha...at least to an extent...
            it sucked not going ANYWHERE for three years, not even the family could handle the tears of my having a night out. i miss sleeping with my husband only, i can't even get my six year old out of our bed. he wakes at night and comes in to lay at the foot of our bed, stealing our blankets, but not waking us lest he be walked back to his bed. my back hurts and there were many many nights i was forced to stay in bed with nursing baby, missing 'me' time......
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              Thu, November 20, 2008 - 10:45 PM
              so feeding on demand is feeding your baby when they are hungry? er der. isnt that what you are soppuse to do? i mean geez we are on a feedin schedule, that she made. you never know when they are hitting a growth spurt so you can really be strict.
              we just started solids and geez it is an adventure in schedule land.
              • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

                Fri, November 21, 2008 - 6:51 AM
                "so feeding on demand is feeding your baby when they are hungry?"

                as far as i've seen ( my sister and my cousin both formula feed their children ) they are on a strict 2-3 hourly schedule with X amount of ounces per feeding, whereas when a. was an infant, i'd nurse her wherever/whenever .. even if, as my asshole brother-in-law once put it, "she's eating again?!!!"

                when her 7 month-old twins were just home from the hospital, the boy started to fuss ... my sister kept looking at the clock to see what time to feed them .. i asked her what would happen if she just fed him right then .. she gave me a look like, "all hell would break loose!"
                • Re: attachment parenting is killing me

                  Fri, November 21, 2008 - 8:54 AM
                  Oh, Geeze! I had to formula feed both of The Wee Bairns, but it was NEVER on a schedule. They cry, you feed. Simple. If they don't want to finish the bottle, they don't have to. It's a Gestalt kind of thing.
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                    Re: attachment parenting is killing me

                    Fri, November 21, 2008 - 12:17 PM
                    well its true about "all hell breaking loose" because yes yr night time rityual will change, but as we all know nothing in babyland is constant.
                    many times i'll have just fed my ff bebe and shes crying and people will say shes hungry, even though i know shes tired and thats why shes crying. so with the ff ones u really need to know their hunger cues other wise u will have urself a little chumker who ios eating 200 dollars wortgh of furmula a month.

                    with ap you and all parenting you can only hold up ideals for so long u have to do whats practical it seems like there are two extremes.
                    never put ur babe down have them in your bed past the point of your own resentment, so u can be "the perfect patrent"

                    and then having a rigid scedule so you can be super organized past the point to where you even listen to what ur baby needs. and there are good points on both sides,. yet i'd rather do what works for my fam

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