When he just won't stop crying...

topic posted Thu, January 3, 2008 - 6:58 PM by  Kisaya Rayne
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Okay, I feel really guilty. I put the baby down and I'm letting him scream. He's not sick. He's not hungry. He's very tired. He's refused to sleep since one this afternoon. Now that it's 8:30 in the evening, he wants to do nothing but scream, scream, scream. I tried nursing him to sleep, no good. He would either not focus on nursing and be half tearing my poor nipple off every two seconds because something caught his attention, or he was clawing my breast with such viciousness that I nearly tossed him because it hurt so bad. I have gouge marks because of him! I tried holding him, but the only place I could hold him was sitting in the middle of the floor because if he gets his hands on anything, he tries to hit it, throw it, tear it to shreds, or destroy it. It means I can't do anything but hold him, which is difficult because poor Corde needs me to make her dinner still, I haven't been able to do grocery shopping because I won't take him when he's this fussy. It's not fair to him or anyone around him. I've tried snuggling him with his pacifier. Even though he's 9 months now, I've tried modified swaddling him to see if that would help. There are times when he's upset that he twists himself in his blanket or my clothes so much that he may as well be swaddled and calms down and drops to sleep, not today. I've tried putting him in his wrap carrier, but the effect was more clawing me to bits. I know he's teething, but he's never acted like this as a result of teething before. He's not sick either. I'm getting frustrated because all I can do is sit perfectly still with him clawing me all over the place in order for him to be content. He'll just sit there and happily scratch me all over. I know he doesn't understand that being a destructive terror only makes people upset, and I know he only does this when he's tired and is fighting sleep, but I don't know what to do in order to help him sleep. Normally if all else fails, we can hop in the car and he usually gets enough of a nap in that I can cuddle or nurse him right back to sleep when I take him out until he's ready to wake up, but for the past two days, even that hasn't worked. I just don't know what's with this trend of refusing to sleep when he's telling me clearly he's tired! I don't know what to do to help him because even with his nails cut as short as I can get them, the repeated scratching on the same spots is really starting to do some damage. His games with nursing are making my nipples rather tender, which is making me hesitant to try nursing him even when I know he's hungry because I know I'm sore. I just don't know what to do. I wish I could just explain to him that he's clearly tired and just needs to go to sleep, and he would, but I know that can't happen. This is now the second day he's gotten significantly less sleep than he usually does, he's completely gone off his schedule (he used to want to nurse, sleep, play at regular times, almost like clock-work), which normally I'd be fine with. I'm not all for babies and schedules anyways, but clearly there's something going on here. I don't want to start leaving him to cry it out, but what options do I have of trying to get him to sleep without dropping my entire life until he figures out what's wrong and stops asking like this? I'm the only parent here and my poor daughter needs some time with Mommy too. The only time she gets Mommy to herself is when the baby's sleeping, and now not only is he not sleeping, but he won't leave me alone long enough that I can get anything done unless he's screaming his head off in the Pack 'N' Play. My house is very quickly becoming a disorganized disaster because I feel guilty just letting him scream when I don't know what's wrong...or more accurately, I know exactly what's wrong, but not how to fix it.

Anyone ever go through this kind of battle before? Anyone have any suggestions for getting him to get some sleep that are better than the "whiskey and a thimble" one I've gotten earlier? I know that if I can get him to sleep the destruct-o-baby problem will go away and he'll stop clawing me, getting distracted every five seconds while nursing, and I will have some time to get stuff done again. Those are all things that he does when he's really tired and usually not long after I figure out he's tired, I have no problems finding some kind of way to get him to sleep, even if I have to resort to a car ride, but I'm at wit's end. I don't know how to help him! Even my daughter's getting angry about the whole thing and keeps yelling at him to stop screaming and go to sleep because she wants me to make dinner, run her bath, and put her to bed.

I'm just glad this single parent thing is almost over. I've come to the conclusion that attachment parenting is significantly more difficult with two children when you're the only present parent and a stay at home mom. When my husband gets home, I need a day off!
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Kisaya Rayne
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    Re: When he just won't stop crying...

    Thu, January 3, 2008 - 11:46 PM
    i didn't have time to elaborate in my original response, so here goes... the chamomile tea worked wonders with my uncontrollably screaming baby during his colic. it saved our parenting relationship, i believe. although it must be used with caution on a child with allergies to the daisy family. tea is perfectly safe to give kids. if he doesn't like it, sweeten it. a little sugar won't stand a chance against the calming powers of chamomile! and i'm sure that CALM is your goal! the teething tablets are really good calmers, too, as are the colic tablets. i used to make a cup of tea, steep, then separate 1 tablespoon to cool. into that i would drop 2 colic tablets, down the rest of the tea myself, then nurse until he (and sometimes i) were zzzzzzzzzzz............ i understand about the painful nursing shenanigans... believe me. i am THIS CLOSE to weaning myself. you can also look into other homeopathics such as calms forte for kids. i can't remember the age restrictions, tho. maybe he has an ear/tooth/tummy ache. i hope you can find your answer soon. let us know.
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      Fri, January 4, 2008 - 7:53 AM
      I hadn't even thought about an ear ache or a tummy ache. I know his signs for teething. He communicates to me very well when he's teething and it hurts. It's funny, I never would have thought I'd say something like that! Corde was never so obvious about what ailed her but ear aches. Is there any way to know if it's an ear ache or tummy ache? Or would I have to take him to the doctor? Poor little guy... And yes, calm is my goal. I can handle him fighting sleep by staring off into space, like he's doing right now. It's the screaming like crazy, tearing at everything in sight, and throwing fits that I have a hard time with, and I know he's not doing it because he thinks it's fun or a game. He doesn't laugh or smile, if anything he makes the same angry little noises he does when my friend's dog won't leave him alone or Corde keeps taking his toys. I think if he could calm down, he'd be able to get to sleep much sooner and feel better much quicker.
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        Fri, January 4, 2008 - 8:28 AM
        Often infants with an ear ache will pull on that ear- if you look in that ear you may see redness is the infection is in the outer ear.
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          Fri, January 4, 2008 - 3:48 PM
          This is not the ideal but if all else fails, baby ibuprofin! It has saved my sanity in the past. They make a kind with no dyes but it does have sweeteners. If he's really miserable and the other excellent remedies suggested here don't do it, I think it might be worth a try.

          If I think Sam is having some trouble with an ear I just put warm olive oil in and massage a little and blow warm air on it a few times and that usually helps. Just a thought. Hope whatever it is passes quickly!! And don't waste your precious energy feeling guilty--you can only do what you can do. Stay focused on moving ahead, don't get caught in reliving something you can't change. What I know of you from this board is that you are a caring and devoted mom so go easy on yourself! (easier said than done, I know!)
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          Mon, January 7, 2008 - 3:19 PM
          That's good to know, but I don't know how much that will help me out with Aris. He pulls on his ears when he's tired anyway. Maybe there will be a noticeable difference when he's got an ear infection or an ear ache?
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        Fri, January 4, 2008 - 9:22 PM
        yeah, he sounds annoyed by something. some other "off the top of my head" random thoughts: an itchy/irritating spot on his clothing (like a tag or plastic thing), chronic belly ache, constipation, sore finger/toe/knee/etc, tired eyes, boredom, feeling powerless, unable to communicate/ feels unlistened to, sore throat.

        i actually second the infant motrin. dye-free is cry-free. oh man, it's seriously bliss with a suffering baby finally snoring away.
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          Re: When he just won't stop crying...

          Fri, January 4, 2008 - 9:24 PM
          oh, can the two of you get into a warm bath together in the evening? your daughter can hang out too, & get in once he's relaxed. is he gassy? or have unusually stinky farts? sometimes my boy reacts badly to a new food item. could it be an allergy?
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    Sun, January 6, 2008 - 8:10 AM
    I am sorry you are going thru this, I cant even imagine how hard it is for you, for the three of you! My first thought was something I-dra mentioned.....some reaction to food or environment. It could be something HE is eating or YOU are eating...have you introduced anything new into either of your diets in the past week or so....it soemtimes takes that long to affect ones body/mind.

    Also, Has anything changed in your life in the past little while? Anything that is making YOU anxious or nervous or unable to calm down internally (besides the screaming, lol)? Babies are very sensitive to whats going on inside the parents esp. the mother if you are nursing and share a close relationship. So on top of whatever else may be bothering him, I would suggest trying to do something for yourself...i know, easier said than done, lol.
    Have you ever tried Tapping? Its called EFT mostly, and I can give you a link or two. I have used this successfully for years for myself and for my husband and in the past two years for my son. You dont even need to do anything to him, you can tap yourself. There are a few key points, like acupuncture points, that you tap while using affirmations. I have actually used this in crowded places with OTHER peoples babies, lol, and they have responded, and Ive been nowhere near them. Crazy but true.
    In your situation, here is what I would do...

    - get as calm and relaxed and comfortable as the circumstance will allow.
    -take about three deep slow breaths and exhale slowly.
    -picture a blue (calming) waterfall of energy/water/light whater you want, flowing down over your head and your sons head, into the earth, and with it, all the frustration and anxiety. Do this for about a minute or longer if you can. You should start to feel calmer and more centered, adn your baby probably will also.
    -Using your fingers and thumb(brought together in a point) start tapping the point on your hand that would make contact if you were doing
    a karate chop. Either hand is fine. Tap continuously firmly while repeating something to the effect of " Even though *sons name* is crying and agitated, I love and accept him as he is" basically you want to identify what is causing you stress i.e sons crying or agitation. Repeat this three times while tapping and move onto the next point.
    -Repeat the above for the following points:
    - center of chin right below lip.
    -tip of nose
    - above the eyebrow, in the center, either eye, ideally both at same time if you can.
    - in the center directly belo the eye
    -at the dent right below your collar bone, either side or both ideally
    -in the center of your sternum
    AFter you have completed this, you may feel alot better already, maybe not.
    -Next, repeat all the points, tapping while affirming the positive " *My baby is calm and relaxed and healthy" or something to that effect.
    Continue the tapping thru the same points as above. This whole thing shouldnt take very long.
    When you finish tapping yourself, you can do the same for your son, though with one finger and more gently.
    This has the affect of resetting your meridians and nerve pathways, and you can totally rewrite alot of programming in your body and mind. I will find some links for you, they may use a slightlly modified approach from what I use, but you get the gist.

    Try this, seriously, it does wonders for me and I hope it will do somethign for you to. you can use this for ANYTHING, headaches, anger, lol, whatever you want. Babies respond quickly to energy techniques.

    Another thing you can do is to surround yourself in blue and wear blue and your baby wear blue and put on some soothing music and drink some chamomile tea like idra said, and then while you sit with him, dont focus on his cries or his agitation. Close your eyes and breath deeply and gently, and picture yourself with long strong roots extending down from your root chakra/base of spine (i imagine you are sitting with him)...picture them taking hold deep inside the earth and then bring this energy from the earth into your body and up your spine and, breathing calmly all the while, out the top of your head, with branches reaching up to the sky and feeling relaxed and calm. Continue feeling yourself this strong flexible gentle tree taking in nourishment from the Earth and channeling it thru your body, it will channel thru to your son also.

    you can also do basica reiki, and you can ask your daughter if she'd like to help, kids love this stuff. And they usually have a powerful energy field.
    Have your daughter or you place both hands, side by sid, fingers extended but close together, on your son, over his stomach area. Hold them there, gently, and breath calmly and center yourself and focus on the love you have for him, or other peaceful and loving thoughts. Make the intention ' I am channeling healing energy to my son' and keep your hands there, you sould feel some sort of tingling or burning or other sensaton after a little bit and thats how you know the energy is flowing.....keep your hands there and in a space of love, till this sensation stops or you feel you need to move on. You can then do the same for the top of his head. ANywhere on the body actually, but these are two powerful spots.

    If you can try some of these things, I can almost gaurentee you will get some releif for you both....if its something more serious or he is sick you will find out, but in the meantime, and even if sick, this will help alot. Let me know if it helps. I do this whenever the chance arises, and I have never had extended crying or pain for my son. Theres almost nothing that hasnt been helped by this, in my case.

    And pulsatilla and chamomilla homeopathic 20c dilution works great too. Both calm and angry and irritable child, chamomile for children who are quite aggressive by nature, pulsatilly usually for children who are rather cheery and pleasant by nature.

    Thinkin about you,
    Puella
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      Mon, January 7, 2008 - 3:17 PM
      Thank you so much. I'll have to try some of that next time he's not feeling too well. Undoubtedly, I found out what the problem was. I got sick. Then he and Corde got sick. It's an uncomfortable, hacking, sore throat kind of deal. As soon as I started hacking I put a vaporizer in my room because my asthma started getting bad. Not long after that, he started getting better at night. He's started doing a little better, but he's not feeling well, so, of course, he gets upset. I knew I should have asked my husband about energy healing before he left! Usually he's the one that fixes everything that hurts or anyone that isn't feeling well. I'm not used to being the one who has to do it all! At least these are some good tips to start with, and I'm sure if I can get myself more calmed down when he's crying, that will help out, because all getting stressed out when he's crying is doing is making the situation worse.

      I swear, I don't know how I did it with the first child without this community! Everyone here always has so much helpful advice!
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        Re: When he just won't stop crying...

        Mon, January 7, 2008 - 3:26 PM
        when does your hubby come home again? this is tough, i'm sure, but you're doing a great job by yourself.
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          Tue, January 8, 2008 - 6:15 PM
          I can't give dates (stupid military) but I can say some point between now and Valentine's Day. As things stand, we're working on the assumption of the middle to end of that time frame, but we don't even know for sure yet. Let me tell you, if they told me he was coming home tomorrow, even though I know he'd grump about the house being a mess and coming home to a sick family, I'd take it! I'd rather have him be grumpy and helpful than do this alone! I really don't think the US Army knows, or maybe cares is a better word, what these long deployments do to families...ugh...
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        Tue, January 8, 2008 - 7:51 AM
        Im glad you figured out what was going on, but sorry you guys arent feeling well! Oisin had a tummy bug a week ago and then DH got it, and im the only one who didnt (as usual).
        Enjoy some ME time when your husband gets home,you deserve it.

        Smiles, Puella
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          Tue, January 8, 2008 - 6:23 PM
          Me time? People get that? Yeah, I'm really starting to notice the lacking of things I love in my life, things I can't do because I have my hands full with the daily grind and the kids don't want to leave me alone long enough to do it. I miss belly dance! I miss yoga! I miss making costumes! I miss having a troupe and classes and rehearsals for shows. I even miss having shows! I hadn't really realized until I sat back and thought about it today exactly how much I have sacrificed for this family, between moving to Texas and decently far enough from any community that I can't get to where I want to be regularly and being 24-7 mom to two small children by myself! I honestly don't know what I'd do without the women here! Perhaps go stir crazy!

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