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My daughter is going to be three in April. I'm curious when other parents are potty training. We've been trying with our daughter, but she just sits there, and nothing happens. What has worked for you?
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Mon, February 2, 2009 - 11:18 AMas a nanny, Ive potty rained a few kids in my day, some with autism and mental retardation too. The basic trick is this: get a timer, and big kid undies, lots of them. Set it for 15 minutes. Every 15 minutes, go potty, even if its just to sit. Then, if they do make, they get a star sticker on a little chart. After a few days, they will begin to tell you when the timer has gone off instead of you telling them. Thats great. When they make it a whole 15 minutes without peeing, make it 30 minutes. As they master each chunk of time consistently, add more time. If they tell you they need to go between timings, reward them with lots of hugs and kisses for telling you what they need, even if they dont make it to the potty. As long as they tell you before theyre wet as opposed to after, thats the goal.
Dont punish them for not making it to the potty. Let them be wet for a minute or two so they can learn to dislike the sensation of soppy undies. But dont punish or make negative comments. This just makes potty a scary thing. Be super happy when they go, high fives, hugs, etc. but treat accidents like theyre no biggie.
Sometimes undies with their favorite character, Thomas the train, barbie, cinderella, etc really are a great motivator. I had one child cry when Thomas got wet, and he magically almost never wet his pants again after that because he didnt want Thomas to get wet.
Buy lots of undies. Lots. And be patient. Forcing the issue, and also being inconsistent will set you 2 steps back.
With poop, try not to make a fuss over it being gross or the smell.Some kids find it funny to gross out mommy and will go on purpose to see you make the funny face associated with a stinky poop. ( I know, weird, huh?)
Another trick I used was to get a special bag or backpack that the liked and make it their potty bag. It had undies, a potty book, wipes, and a small toy to play with while waiting for poop to come out. Some kids liked it,some just liked to talk while they go.
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Mon, February 2, 2009 - 10:06 PMWow HunnyDu, great tips! It really seems like it'll work! Of course, I have many years to go before I reach that point (as you know, my baby is still in the belly...)
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Mon, February 2, 2009 - 10:51 PMNot one thing works for all kids. But these are things Ive tried that have been productive. I could talk about stuff thats NOT productive, like letting a kid wear pull ups until theyre 8. But whats the point of that?
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 6:24 AMabigail was an exceptionally early pottyer ... 22 months.
another trick that helped her was to bring the potty to her, rather than "go to the potty" ... she was able to stay in her play areas, coloring or reading or watching sesame while she sat. it lasted just a very short while during the early days, and later the excitement of going *to* the potty was a big deal.
there are other tricks that worked for us .. but i'll wait until asked, rather than offer too much. -
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 10:55 AMHAHAHA, that reminds me of Emma. She did NOT want to poop in the potty. She was very happy to poop in her pull-ups everyday.
So, we did the countdown. We had 20 pull-ups left. She was so good at peeing in the potty that she would wear undies everyday and only put a pull-up on to poop. So after they were all gone I knew she would be desperate...so, I put her in the TV room, naked with the potty and the TV on. Sure enough after 10 minutes alone (I gave her privacy) she POOPED in the potty!. She pooped like that for a week and then after that she was comfortable in the bathroom. She was 3.5 I think by the time she finally was pooping in the potty. HOORAY!! -
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 1:36 PMEwan is on a trip right now where he insists on wearing his underwear all day and wants to sit on the potty but rarely uses it. He just holds it all day until nap time and then pees in his nap diaper. Then after nap he wants the diaper off and wants to sit on the potty but just holds it most of the time until evening. He poops in the morning in his overnight diaper. It is tripping me out because I don't think that is healthy to hold it like that. But it is his choice and I don't want to put him in diapers when he feels he is ready for underwear. I've gone through potty training with a lot of kids but so far he is the first one who has demanded to be out of diapers and holds it all day.
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 11:57 AMOh another tip for the toddler who you know HAS to poop but is holding it in: give them something to chew.Like a dried apricot or a chunk of granola bar. Most kids cant clench their anal sphincter AND chew at the same time. -
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 12:41 PMVery helpful Hunny..... did not know that....
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 2:05 PMWho the hell wants to eat when you have to take a crap? -
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 6:28 PMYour kids never poop in their diapers while theyre eating in the high chair? Come on, Im not talking about bringing a tv tray up to the toilet with a full course meal on it. -
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 8:06 PMI had , still have in fact, a great older guide to backpacking and camping with babies and young childen. they remind you, when talking about dealing with diapers and/or potty seats etc that "remember, it won;t be like this next year."
and it;s true...no matter how much this diaper stuff is riving all of you a little buggy now, they all eventually start using the toilet and making heir poopers their own business rather than yours.
so my best advice is to remember that whatever it is, tey;ll be in college way longer than they ar in diapers, and it all goes by too fast, as they say.
I think we get too werided out by diapers and all this stuff, and sooner or later, no matter what methods we ue o don;t use, no matter whether they took a year to get all the steps down o wre successful with the "potty trianing in a day" method, whether ou use treats o get them into the scene or not, whether they use a potty seat or learn to sit onthe big toilet... the kids always get it together and it'll be all over....my own little smarty stoped peeing iat night early on (we were co-sleepers which I think makes a difference that way) but would get so busy playing that she; jsut forget to use the bathroom, bu she didn't want to go back to wearing diapers.
so i had a year of carrying extra undies and training training pants, and then it was all over.
my own kid is fourteen and in high school now! and when we moved into this place, she as in coth diapes and seeme lke a logn drawn out process...
my mom says that diaty diapers weren't all that big a deal but spit up milk and baby food really grossed her out. i personally really lose i with snotty oses sometimes.
anyway...it;l all be okay. nbot sure what else to tell you.
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 8:17 PM"Who the hell wants to eat when you have to take a crap?"
i know when abigail won't eat dinner that 15 minutes later she'll have to take the poop of all poops. then, she's hungry, at 8:30
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 8:25 PMYep same with my kids. Lucas does that all the time. He's not hungry and then all of a sudden he's screaming to the bathroom for a 45 minute poop. Then he's all ready for eating time.
Hunnydu they do poop in the high chair when they are babies BUT, they don't enjoy eating in the bathroom or while sitting on the shitter.
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Tue, February 3, 2009 - 8:39 PMOh sorry, I forgot all kids are exactly the same.
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 6:28 AMoh, we've definitely had cracker crumbs in the potty ... there are times when abigail will definitely munch and drink her water while she's in for her half-hour sit-ins.
there are other times when she's just peeing, i'll ask her if she's ready to get up and she'll just sit there happily coloring. -
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 1:23 PMso the key to relaxing ur anus is having something in your mouth?? cool. -
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 5:41 PMhmmm. for me it's reading on the pot...something inherently relaxing about ngaging the visual and auditorycortices instad or worry about taking a shit.maybe bringing the kidos a toy to look at and hold would work? -
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 5:48 PMseriously!
a toy, a book, coloring pages or stickers .. whatever your kid likes. also, i'd say if a kid is really having trouble relaxing, that mom and dad bring the potty to the kid while they watch a favorite video or program.
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 9:31 PMLucas takes so long to poop because he reads for so long. We now have a "no book poop" rule when he goes in the morning before school. He'd be 45 minutes late if we let him ready in the morning. In the afternoon, heck...I let him take 5 books. Although I always say he's going to be the only 6 year old kid who's ever had hemorrhoids.
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 10:05 PMLucas, i can dig it!
well, sometimes we like to read in the john even when we're done (or before we;re ready) because itl;s quiet and no one bugs us there, and/or it;s a comfortable place to sit with your pants off. also, in he house where I grew up, it was the only place where the door locked reliably 9except the doors to outside the house...so if I wanted to be left alone, no little bother-brothers s wanting to play Monopoly then kicking the game t pieces bause they wer losing, no intursice parents. and running water besides...hey the bathroom was the place to hang out!
i will admit I have a good varied bookshelf in my present bathroom, books on sociaoloy of being labeled a slut, Coyote stories, adventures of a Mexican dope smuggler, natural history of stuff like the mineral kindom, tree and bd identifivation, seashore life, a few vetraian magazines, an almnac...
I understand that the Romans of the old days of roan empire had defacatoria where they gathered with their friends to have a chat while they eliminated.
there are some hangups i'm no ready to let go...i like to crap alone, thank ye kindly.
but sometimes books are your best friend...oh my gawd, am i writing about shit AGAIN?
whata re Lucas' preferred reading materials for his pottying pleasure?
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Thu, February 5, 2009 - 1:36 PMLucas likes the Mister books. That is his current reading pleasure. :D He received a whole bunch at Christmas.
www.mrmen.com/us/
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Wed, February 4, 2009 - 6:23 PMSometimes. If you read the Ina May Gaskin books, and her ideas on Sphincter Law, you realize that all the sphincters in our bodies are connected.Think about it. When you have a hard time poopin, is your jaw relaxed and soft? Or are you holding your breath and making a face? Or when youre trying NOT to poop? There have been some long car rides where I couldnt talk, because I was afraid if I moved my mouth, I would lose control over my butt, and have an accident. Not to mention the mind-over-matter thing. Some kids are really afraid to let that doodie drop and they fight it, but if theyre busy enjoying a treat, they cant concentrate on holding in the poop. When you relax your mouth, you relax your bottom. -
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Sun, February 8, 2009 - 9:48 AMWow, 22 responses. Thanks! I guess this one affects all of us mommies. So, you think actually allowing her to pee her pants will help her to tell the difference between dry/wet? as opposed to using pullups? -
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Sun, February 8, 2009 - 9:49 AMI wish I had a backyard. I would just let her run around naked.
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Sun, February 8, 2009 - 12:10 PMIm not advocating letting any kid run around in a soiled pair of drawers for more than a minute or two. But pull ups wick away the wetness and wet undies get cold and gross in just a few seconds. Plus, with undies, as opposed to pull-ups the kids can actually see the pee running down the leg. Its very concrete cause and effect.. Of course it means you will be cleaning up some urine. But a few "accidents" can really teach a child to listen to their body. Its worth the extra clean-up, IMO. -
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Sun, February 8, 2009 - 3:35 PMThey have these really cool cloth training pants that unsnap on the side in case of poop.
I also advocate letting them feel wetness. Although if they have been using cloth they will know wet pants very well.
This is what I plan on using once baby G grows out of her BumGenius dipes.
www.cottonbabies.com/product_info.php
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Sun, February 8, 2009 - 8:30 PMI've just started the process of potty training, and I tried some pull ups, and have discovered they are totally useless. They cant feel any of the wetness, which I think isn't helpful at all. I'm in the process of getting some inexpensive training cloth pants (some gerbers and some of these: www.pottytrainingconcepts.com/Pot...html - I prefer to try a few brands before I invest in a bunch) , and I'm thinking of using some diaper covers as needed. Hoping that that will work for us.
btw, the above link has some great resources and tips for potty training! -
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Mon, February 9, 2009 - 12:01 PMThose are super cute.
I love potty training in the summer. Then they can run around nakies outside and learn how it feels to pee.
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Mon, February 9, 2009 - 3:25 PMi give the months of june, july, august and september half credit for our early pottier!
we started a potty routine january, catching every morning pee just as we woke up ... and by july she was 99% pottying! it helped that she saw the bigger 3 year-old girls peeing behind the trees at the park .. she wanted to be just like her big friends. after the 4th of july potty immersion weekend, no more diapers and i encouraged her to pee on the grass anytime we were at the park. by the autumn, i bought the bjorn lil' potty for traveling about .. it fits in a trader joe's shopping bag.
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Thu, February 19, 2009 - 11:45 PMI know I am late to this posting, but thought I'd drop in what we do with our little one. We started introducing the potty at 14 mos, started to get her to sit on it by letting her play with my nail polish calling them bathroom toys; we'd talk about the colors, etc. We started doing pee noises when she would sit on the potty in order for her to get the idea and typically I'd pee just because I was sitting on the potty. Then over time she'd sit on the potty and read, she would look at books alone or we'd read to her, many books. Now she is almost 22 mos and has been able to tell us in words when she has to go for the past couple of months. I have let her go diaper free at home since she was 14 mos and she's always been in cloth diapers when wearing diapers. I hear if you start earlier it can take longer, but that is okay, we are on the slow and steady route. I am just about to try her in training pants (under the nile ones which are more like underwear rather than those thick training pants which are more like diapers). Maybe let your daughter go diaper free at home and since she's a little older she should be able to use words and let you know when she has to go. She will make accidents, but that is part of the learning. Now I can leave my daughter alone in another room without worrying about accidents and she'll actually find me and tell me she has to go and then off we go to the little potty. It has definitely taken us some time to get to this point, but rarely do I have to clean a poopy diaper, yuck. Also, watch your daughter and see what expressions or signals she does when she pees or poops. My daughter will run or walk in circles when she is pooping which is when I grab her and place her on the potty. I started it this way when I would see a poop escaping and then after several times of this I would notice things that meant that she was pooping so I would ask poop? and she would say poop so whether she really wanted to or not I'd place her on the pot. She'd rather walk aroudn the living room and drop it somewhere, ew. She would not kick or scream, just run from me. ha! Hopes this helps. Just another perspective, but I've never had a 3 year old so not sure what there really like and by now she has gotten so use to going in the diaper. There are obviously many methods to use. Try different ones and see which work for you. -
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Thu, February 19, 2009 - 11:46 PMoh, and one more thing, she may not have to go when you put her on there, just give her many opportunities to go; after she eats or drinks or goes for a walk. Offer often, but if she doesn't have to go then offer again in a bit, maybe it is just not time. I wouldn't want someone forcing me to go pee / poo if I didn't have to go.
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Mon, February 23, 2009 - 7:00 PMI went with, "when their ready, they will do it" theme. And it worked. My guy just figured it out himself with a week and a half. No stress for either of us, no pressure, no gimmicks- I didn't even have to think about it.. Easy, easy easy. Granted I had to change diapers until he was 3 1/2, but i really didn't mind so much. So if your not into changing diapers that long, this won't work for you.