Another no-sleep issue

topic posted Sat, December 8, 2007 - 5:22 AM by  Kisaya Rayne
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My baby boy is 8 months now. He usually spends the first half of the night in his playpen after falling asleep in my lap or the car. I let him stay there until he wakes up for his night nursing because I found moving him to the bed would wake him up and he'd want to play, not so good for a tired mommy. Unfortunately, the boy has allergies or something because he's ALWAYS congested and recently it's been worse than usual. Tonight in particular he's been so congested that he can't get back to sleep. He's been fussing and squirming. I've tried him on allergy medication prescribed by his doctor, but it doesn't help. I think he maybe has a cold at this point, so maybe cough and cold stuff would be better, but I don't keep any in the house unless it's going to be used. I know if he could just sleep propped up, he'd be okay, but he just won't sleep. Of course, the only thing I have to prop him up in is his exersaucer or on pillows. He won't stay on the pillows and he just keeps screaming in the exersaucer, which he used to just put his head down and sleep in whenever he was tired with no fuss. Normally I'd just hold him or let him lay in the bed with me until he finally got comfortable and settled down, but I know that can take hours when he feels like this.

Now, I know it's not his fault, but I can't handle this right now. Between my son and my daughter, I haven't gotten enough sleep in a week. It takes a good hour or more to get him to sleep every night. Then when I get him to sleep and put down, I try to spend a little time with my four-year-old daughter to get her into bed, but she keeps asking for just one more story, and then throws a temper tantrum when I cut her off after two or we'll be at it all night. That wakes up the baby and then I've got to spend a whole hour putting him to bed again. I have no help at bedtime, so it's not like I can deal with the baby while someone else takes care of my daughter. Daddy is in Iraq right now, so I'm stuck and alone. With the baby now waking me up after only four hours of sleep, I'm just too tired to deal with it. I can't just suck it up and go get him some cold medicine because that means waking up my daughter and dragging her 20 minutes away to the store, dragging them both through Walmart to find the stuff, then dragging them both home. Then I've got to convince both of them to go back to bed so I can get some sleep. I've tried taking a nap when the baby's taking his nap, but my daughter wakes me up because she wants some attention too. I can't imagine how this would all work if I was working! I'm burnt out now and I'm at home with them all the time!

I feel really guilty right now because I'm tempted to just let him scream until he figures it out. I need sleep to be a good parent. I have real world responsibilities. I've got to go do laundry so he has diapers because I don't have a washer and dryer at home. I've got to do grocery shopping. I have another child to take care of that's been getting no attention because I'm either I'm dealing with getting the baby down to sleep, nursing him, feeding him, changing his diapers, trying to cook, trying to clean, or doing any of the other million things that NEED to get done or I'll get too far behind again. On top of it all, I'm so tired that I'm not efficient at any of it. It's not fair to her because the only time she gets with me is when the baby is sleeping, and that's if I can put him down without him waking up. She gets really jealous if I try to have time with her while holding the sleeping baby. I'm only one person and I'm having a real problem trying to be mommy and daddy and still get enough time for me. I even got a comment yesterday that I "smell like a hippie" because I don't get to shower as often as the rest fo the world would like because I have to find a time when neither of the kids are demanding my attention to do so and I can't take the baby in the shower because he get scared and screams. It would be different if my husband was actually here to help me, but courtesy of the US Army, he's not going to be home for a while yet. I just don't know what else I can do. I NEED my sleep, but he's not figuring it out with me holding him. It seems like no matter what I do, he's going to scream. I'm starting to think there's nothing in the realm of something reasonable that I can do to make him feel better. There's no one I can call to take the kids for a couple of hours so I can get some sleep. Even if there were, I wouldn't feel right giving them a baby that screams like you're trying to kill him every time he's tired and just won't go to sleep for a whole hour at a time, no matter how much I try to cuddle him, rock him, soothe him, or whatever. I don't know what to do, but I need something to happen because I need to get some sleep soon or I'm going to be useless as a mother because I'll be too tired to function. Unfortunately, there's a reason children have two parents...

I'm sorry, this is a bit more of a rant. I'm just frustrated and exhausted. I really don't know what else to do other than wait until morning and get him something for the congestion after my daughter's awake, if I'm alert even alert enough to be driving a car. That won't help the bedtime battle with the two of them, but I can't deal with less sleep than I'm already getting. I just really don't know what I'm doing wrong that he won't sleep and what else to do to get my daughter to bed without a fight short of hiring a maid to take care of my house and a laundry service so that I have enough time to spend with both children. If I could get the baby to sleep without such a long fight, I'd have more time during the day to spend with her. I just don't know what else to do other than let him scream, bury my head under the pillow, and pray that he eventually falls asleep because I'm just so tired and nothing I do seems to be working...
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Kisaya Rayne
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    Re: Another no-sleep issue

    Wed, December 12, 2007 - 2:05 PM
    i know how it goes...
    try some chamomile tea, give 1 tbs per cup let steep for 15 min, or until cool enough to give to him. this is the hardest part of parenting, it really sux. loki, my daughter would take hours to go to sleep then to wake if she sensed i moved, only to take forever again...i was the only one she'd sleep for---three years tops right? then they sleep!
    anyway for the congestion-salt h2o in the nose works best--if you want to deal with the tears--but it beats the meds!
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      Wed, December 12, 2007 - 9:54 PM
      Wow, I was really touched by your "rant" as you called it. It IS really really hard being a SAHM, especially when hubby is out of the picture. Reading your post made me realize how much harder it could be. I only have one child, and my husband works from home. The hardest thing, is that at the end of a super long, hard day, I know I have to wake up and do it all over again in the morning. You're absolutely right about not sleeping, you can't be a good mom when you haven't slept! And I can't either! And letting him scream and figure it out isn't the worst thing that can happen! It's better than some alternatives, right?

      Anyway, on the topic of congestion, my daughter gets more congested when she eats dairy. Your post was from a few days ago, so things may have blown over by now, but just for future reference. It's a hard one, I mean cheese is a very popular snack. I just limit it to a little bit every few days.

      Just think, one day, you will look back at this time of your life from a much more relaxed and healthy vantage point!
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        Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:45 PM
        Dairy? Never would have thought about that! I'll start watching what he eats more carefully. He doesn't eat much dairy, but he's had some stuff with dairy in it. I wonder if that would compare. Maybe it's something else he's eating. It's definitely something to look into.

        As for realizing how much harder it could be, well, everyone's got it hard. Every lifestyle comes with it's own unique challenges. There is no easy life or charmed existence. Honestly, though I've been going through a rough patch, it's been pretty good. Yeah, I've had my days, but I kind of like being an independent stay at home mom on the whole. I'm not sure how I'm going to handle it when my husband is back in the picture! I've got to re-adjust my whole lifestyle when he gets back because his needs will have to be considered.
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      Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:40 PM
      Ooo...I have chamolile tea! I'll put that in in my Mommy Notes! And I think salt h2o in the nose is something we need to try. His nose is still congested from...I don't know...something. During the day it's not so bad. It just drips down his face and looks real pleasant. On a bad day it'll drip straight down off his chin before I can get to him with a tissue, all as a result of a sneeze! Eww! But I'd rather try something like salt water at night than know he's not sleeping because his nose is stuffed. May not be fun, but you're right, better than meds!
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    Thu, December 13, 2007 - 10:06 AM
    hi MR.....

    i hope things are a bit better for you now. i thought of a few things while i was reading your post.

    find some help. family? friends? (don't have any??? i know the feeling!) how about an older neighbor lady or teenager from the block? you said that your hubby is in iraq, is he guard or regular army? either way, i think there might be something the bureaucracy can do for. maybe there's another mom from the same troop that needs help, too. you guys could trade off. just get someone to watch the kids so you can take a nap, or go get a massage or something. you are so right when you say you need to be on top of your game to be a good parent.

    when my daughter couldn't sleep, we would sit on a big exercise ball and bounce her. she loved it and always fell asleep. my neighbors also swear by this method, as we told them about it when their baby was born. if he's always congested, you could try saline spray. this is much better for them than the cold/cough meds......there's all kinds of issues with the cold meds these days. if it doesn't stop, he should see a dr. i had a terrible adenoid problem as a baby and could barely breathe.....had to have them removed surgically.

    when you have a chance (ha!, but really) you need to schedule a special day with your daughter. go out somewhere fun, maybe have lunch just the 2 of you. when things are going well, tell her how much you need her to be a big girl and to understand and help while daddy is away. i know she's only 4, but even 4 year olds can understand helping out and being nice. give her lots of lovin', and tell her that she's your big girl helper. she'll like being given the responsibility.

    i hope things go better for you.....please post again and tell us what's up.

    evi
    • Re: Another no-sleep issue

      Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:57 PM
      Nope, no family around. We moved half-way across the country from my family, though thankfully I'll be getting a break when I go back home for Christmas soon. I don't have too many friends either. My neighborhood is really odd in that no one knows each other. I live on post, but everyone's so afraid of the rumor mill that they don't talk to each other! It's so surreal! However, I do know a couple people who may be able to take the kids for a bit and let me have a nap.

      My husband is regular Army. At least if he was guard, I'd still be close to home. I never met any of the other wives in his unit because he met up with them mid-deployment. When he left, and I'm not joking on this, I knew one person down here. That was it. Since then a few other people have come and go, several who I wouldn't trust with my kids. I'm hoping when he gets back (in the next couple months) that we can try and hook up with some other families in his unit and we can set something up for the future.

      Corde and I are hopefully going to have some special time just for us when we go up to Mass. Most of my family has only seen the baby once and plans to keep him busy as much as possible. They know Corde and I haven't had any special time since he's been born. She's gotten a lot better since she last talked to Daddy, though. He told her how proud he was of her for being such a big girl! You wouldn't believe how much that changed her attitude!

      That's one thing I can say about this deployment. We've learned a LOT about how to survive next time! I'm certainly going to be keeping some of these things in mind for the future, and for the time between getting home from Mass and my husband getting home. I really need not to get myself run down like that again!
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    Thu, December 13, 2007 - 12:46 PM
    I think I understand what you are going through! I believe that you need to get some sleep to be able to cope with this situation. Try to give the kids to somebody for a few hours or let the baby scream while you sleep. Everything will be more clear once you sleep.

    I also have a 8 months old baby and is soooo hard to put him to sleep at night. He was "easy" until a few weeks ago. Now we moved far away and everything is new and he started moving on his own... So each time I try to put him to sleep at night or naps he is very very active. I'm thinking that maybe I need to let him do more physical activity so he get really tired for bedtime..

    good luck!
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      Mon, December 17, 2007 - 5:02 PM
      Makes you miss the days of swaddling, huh? It's so much easier just to wrap them up so they can't move and cuddle them to sleep! All this rocking and singing is driving me nuts! Corde has started playing what she calls "ducks in a row". She waddles around the floor like a duck and says "Baby brother, you need to follow me because you're my baby duck!" He follows her around and tires himself out. Usually that works, but the really congested nights, he still wakes up. But, yeah, get that baby going as much as he can go!
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    Fri, December 14, 2007 - 7:49 PM
    Sorry to hear about your situation.

    You mentioned allergies. Are there known food allergies in your family? Eliminating these foods from your diet should make a huge difference. My son had the same problem. I wasn't aware of family allergies, but found out that he is allergic to dairy. (I have since been tested and I'm allergic too. Explained all my childhood ear infections.) Two weeks after dairy was removed, he slept much better.

    Breast milk given in drops into his nose will help congestion from a cold. No awful trip to the store.

    Keep trying to sleep when the baby sleeps. A 4 year old can usually understand that mommy is sleepy and needs to rest. I used to sleep on the floor in the kid's room while they played.

    I hope that you're husband is home soon, safe and sound.
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      Sat, December 15, 2007 - 3:42 AM
      Vaporizer!! A warm mist thingie made all the difference for my boy when he was congested. Now that it's winter and we have the heater on, we use it every night. If you are using heat at all it may be drying him up which makes congestions worse.

      Meanwhile, just wanted to say I wish you sleep and magic energy from somewhere. I only have one but am the 24/7 mom and know how overwhelmed I feel with just the one. What if you don't fight with your duaghter over bed time and just keep reading until she falls asleep? I know you need time to yourself and sleep, but if it's between dealing with a tantrum and reading, why not read? Could help her get her mommy needs met and is more restful than struggling with her.

      Hope you all feel better soon!
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        Mon, December 17, 2007 - 5:17 PM
        I'll have to get a warm mist humidifier! I almost bought one because the air was making my throat dry. I hadn't even thought that it would help with congestion! That shows me not to follow my instincts. It'll have to wait until pay day, but it can't hurt. At least I know I'll be feeling better, so maybe I'll at least get a more restful sleep.

        I've tried reading until she falls asleep, and it didn't work. I thought that perhaps I was doing something wrong, but since it was suggested, maybe I wasn't giving it a good enough chance. Then she picked Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas. I was thrilled because it was one of my favorite Christmas stories when I was little. It's a long-ish story with lots of words on each page. At first, I was a little disappointed because she didn't seem interested and it was one of my favorite stories. Then I looked over and she was asleep! So, thank you for the suggestion! I'm glad I kept with it. It seems all I need do now is encourage her to pick stories that will last until she falls asleep. Thankfully, she's getting a couple big books of nice long princess stories (her current favorite thing is princesses), so I'll have plenty of nice long stories to read to her. So hopefully I can try it again tonight with a nice long story and we'll have her out in no time...wish me luck!
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      Mon, December 17, 2007 - 5:07 PM
      I've made a point of avoiding any of the known food allergies in my family. However, I'm thinking maybe I should suffer through an allergy test to see if there's one I'm not aware of that's bothering him.

      I didn't know about the breast milk in the nose! What isn't breast milk good for? I'll definitely have to give that a try.

      Corde has been pretty good about when I try to take a nap. Unfortunately, the neighbors aren't. They're really loud and practically right outside my window. Maybe I should try some ear plugs or something to dampen the noise. Even if I don't hear Aris starting to fuss when he naps, his first instinct is to climb on top of me for some cuddles to make him feel better, so I know he'll wake me up.

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